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    • #23676
      mmDanStag
      Participant

      I’ve been a fan of catch and release for a number of years. I feel “barbless” or bent down barbs make releasing fish much easier and does less damage to the fish.
      Is there anything more grotesque than catching a trout during C&R and seeing its lips looking like hamburger?

      My forum question to my fellow fishermen is this: does there seem to be a difference between using hooks with bent down barbs and barbless hooks ?

    • #23677
      Jim Craig
      Keymaster

      I definitely believe so.   When you look closely, you will find most hooks manufactured to be barbless have a longer point that slightly curves up toward the shank of the hook.  In my experience, that design really holds fish on the hook, despite the absence of a barb (assuming you maintain tension during the fight).  Take a close look at something like a Firehole 316 or 317.  I credit the design of those hooks for holding fish on when I am fishing size 18 and 20 zebra midges and Barr’s emergers.  There are times when I have to use my forceps to reverse those hooks back out, and yet there is minimal to no damage to the fish.

      When you mash down the barb of a hook, you are left with a short-pointed hook where you have neutralized its primary fish-holding feature.  As a result, you have just reduced your odds of landing that fish.

      Sure, you can mash the barb and get away with it.  Many of us have done that.  But, now you are asking that de-barbed hook to do something it wasn’t designed to do.

      My 2 cents.

      JRC

       

    • #23681
      mmSensei
      Participant

      Grasshopper Jim

      Well you have learned, grasshopper Jim.  The pebble from my hand you can take now. All that you have written is true as though I said it with my own mouth. Well done!

    • #23919
      Steve Baker
      Participant

      I’ve been a fan of using barb-less hooks for a couple of years and I feel like they are just as good for netting fish as a barbed hook. The only problem I’ve run into is when fishing a dropper off of the bend of a barb-less hook.  I’ve tried several different knots and none of them seem to work. I finally tried using a very small drop of cement on the knot at the bend. This has worked very good for me. It does require carrying a small bottle of cement in your vest, or what I’ve resorted to is tying up a number of rigs at home and wrapping them on a foam disc. It works but also violates the rule of tying on before checking out the stream.

      Steve Baker

    • #23937
      mmDanStag
      Participant

      Thanks for sharing your experiences, oh wise men (or is it “wise guys”?).
      appreciate the useful info and just may invest the extra in barbless hooks (even if it does hurt more to leave them in a tree!).

    • #23939
      Kenny Klimes
      Keymaster

      Danstag

      Actually it hurts to leave any hook/fly in a tree. If it didn’t you wouldn’t see me climbing halfway up it to fetch my fly. I believe barbless is the way to go. Just keep “tension” on the line and the fish won’t get away. Plus, they are easier to take out of the back of the head. I find that a good 60% of the time when the fish gets into the net – it’s then when he spits the hook. I like Firehole Sticks for hooks. I like the black color too – seems to be “more invisible” under water. Just sayin

    • #23940
      Kenny Klimes
      Keymaster

      Danstag

      Actually it hurts to leave any hook/fly in a tree. If it didn’t you wouldn’t see me climbing halfway up it to fetch my fly. I believe barbless is the way to go. Just keep “tension” on the line and the fish won’t get away. Plus, they are easier to take out of the back of the head. I find that a good 60% of the time when the fish gets into the net – it’s then when he spits the hook. I like Firehole Sticks for hooks. I like the black color too – seems to be “more invisible” under water. Just sayin

    • #23941
      Kenny Klimes
      Keymaster

      Danstag

      Actually it hurts to leave any hook/fly in a tree. If it didn’t you wouldn’t see me climbing halfway up it to fetch my fly. I believe barbless is the way to go. Just keep “tension” on the line and the fish won’t get away. Plus, they are easier to take out of the back of the head. I find that a good 60% of the time when the fish gets into the net – it’s then when he spits the hook. I like Firehole Sticks for hooks. I like the black color too – seems to be “more invisible” under water. Just sayin

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